I was 22 years old when I attended my first and last Porn and Chicken celebration at a suburban club kid haven dubbed Drink. A faux leather dress from Forever 21 hugged my 117-pound figure. The Dances with Wolves themed event led to one too many Fireball ice luge shots. Fried chicken was served in aluminum foil pans. Meanwhile, ’70s adult entertainment did just that — entertained us. The next day, I vaguely remembered tongue kissing PnC’s Dom Brown also gaining a stalker who wanted to wine and dine me at Walker Bros. The Original Pancake House.

After 520 consecutive Monday night extravaganzas, The Windy City’s unprecedented promoters, event producers and musicians Porn and Chicken retired their regular rendezvouses. Prior to PnC’s North Coast Music Festival performance with 2FAC3D, we bantered about where they are, how they got there and where they are going.

On August 13, PnC hosted their 8-Year Anniversary Magic 8 Ball Banger. Depict a memorable moment from that event.

Dom Brown: I was crying. There were people there that have worked for us during the span of eight or nine years. Mandi Mae Black and Jai Sephora, two originators, were there. There were over 600 people. It was so packed. It’s crazy to think that we started this party in a small bar, Risqué Café, in Wrigleyville almost 10 years ago. We’ve toured the entire world, played almost all 50 states, and people respect us for throwing a party called Porn and Chicken. It’s literally changed our lives. At that moment, while we were playing that set, it was fucking ridiculous. We were railing it home.

I’m about to shovel a bump into my nose, and the security guard comes in. He goes “There’s someone who wants to see you here. Your mom is here.” I said “Dude, I don’t know you like that. Don’t be making jokes about my mom.” I walked upstairs, and my mom was literally there with my sister. She was cheering us on. I turned the music down and I’m shouted: “Make some fucking noise for my mom.” It felt so good.

She’s at every one of our shows actually. She’s a Christian lady. I try to get her to swear on the microphone, and she never does it. I’ve never met anyone more proud of what we’ve done. She has made Orville and Fei like her kids, and she’s adamant about supporting us. She tells all of her friends. You have to think how stupid it sounds to say “Yeah, my son is in Porn and Chicken.” She’s always like “That’s my baby. Those are my kids. That’s what they do, and they’re fucking crush it.”

Orville Kline: My family’s always given us a lot of support too. My dad and my mom are both big proponents of PnC.

What have you contributed to the music scene as the Brownies & Lemonade of the Midwest?

DB: Brownies & Lemonade bit our style. We were the first ones to do it. We’ve been around for almost 10 years. They’re in their second year or something like that.

OK: A lot of headlining artists that are playing festivals like this [North Coast Music Festival] or selling out Aragon Ballroom, we booked them. A lot of these artists played Chicago first at our party. Sometimes, they would jump on and play for free or next to nothing.

DB: You had to come to Porn and Chicken if you were in Chicago. No matter what tour it was: The Chainsmokers, Carnage, fucking Kelly Osbourne, whoever it was. We became synonymous with the Chicago music scene. If you were in Chicago, it was a right of passage coming through our party. We’re literally listed on Thrillist’s “10 Things That Only Happen in Chicago,” which is weird. There’s something to be said about anyone who can throw a party in the middle of the week and anybody that can do a weekly party. Kudos to them. Everybody else that’s out here throwing parties, they get a full month turnaround on their party. They get to promote all month.

When was the decision made to have “the Porn and Chicken experience” open to your main demographic 18+, once per month? Will it alienate current fans?

DB: It was a really hard decision. Fei [“PHIVES” Tang] and Orville didn’t agree at first, but the last Spring Awakening Music Festival set, there were 10,000 kids in front of us. We were standing there going “There are 10,000 kids in front of us right now because they can’t see us any other time.” They’re not able to come to the club every week.

OK: Especially on a Monday.

DB: It dawned on me. I want to deliver that wild experience, and it’s becoming so hard to do that every single week. Back in the day, we’d deck out the entire club and change the look of it. Everybody was getting their makeup done by Jojo Baby at Evil Olive. When we moved over to the MID, we had this massive production. I want to get back to producing the sickest parties. I want to start these kids young; I want to fuck them up right off the bat.

Recently, you’ve decided to concentrate on producing music and promoting additional events.

OK: We started our new party series called Planet Filth. It’s primarily dubstep and riddim-focused. The first three we’ve done sold out at Concord Music Hall. We have a bunch of big stuff planned through the rest of the fall.

DB: Music is our primary focus right now.

OK: Since our weekly Monday party ended, I feel like we gained a whole extra day of the week. It’s like having eight days of the week. That extra day allows us to grind down on cranking out tracks and doing more cool production stuff. We didn’t have the time or bandwidth to do that before.

DB: You lose two days. It’s Monday. Then, recovery on Tuesday. Wednesday comes around, and the week’s over again. We’ve been making music for four or five years, but the music that we’re making right now is finally right. We’ve got the guitar. We’ve got the live vocals. We’ve got our drummer. The sound will transcend doing the party weekly. You can reach more people through that platform.

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What are your views on SESTA/FOSTA laws? American Sex Podcast co-host Sunny Megatron posted on Facebook about the law directly affecting your business and official YouTube account.

DB: I think it’s bullshit. You can’t censor people like that. They took down our whole YouTube channel. I mean with like millions and millions of views, and that was our whole body of work. How dare you? just because of the name “porn.” Sex work is one of America’s oldest careers.

There’s a difference between being a sex worker and being sex trafficked. If someone is of free will having sex as work, that is their prerogative. It’s not your right to police that. By all means, stop kids from being trafficked or women being prostituted against their own free will. Policing women is garbage. Telling a woman what she can and cannot do with her body is not anybody’s right at all. There’s no reason to have any legislation on that. That’s what I think is so foolish about it, and it has found its way into what we do.

OK: It was over 300 videos. We contested it.

DB: They said that they would give us our data, but they don’t want the name “porn” on YouTube at all. It’s also the reason we can’t get verified on any social media platform. They won’t verify us on Twitter. They won’t verify us on Facebook. We have over 100,000 likes on our music page, but they won’t verify it because of the name “Porn and Chicken.” At what point does our body of work speak for itself? We’re clearly not doing porn.

Who initiated your partnership with Trinium Events and Planet Filth?

DB: It’s been a long time coming.

OK: A couple of years ago, we brought Axilon on as a monthly resident act at our weekly party. We’d seen all the stuff Trinium was doing, and they were killing it. The Monday party wasn’t easy for them because a lot of the Trinium crew still had day jobs. This year, Dom’s like “We need to pull the trigger.” We had some other opportunities come up, where we had the ability to throw some parties at Concord Music Hall. It was the perfect partnership.

DB: It’s the perfect synergy. Those kids are a force to be reckoned with. They’re diligent workers. They do a great job at promoting. We believe in their music and what they are doing. It’s nice to partner with people that can bring something to the table. Through the years, we’ve worked with people and felt we were always carrying everyone else. Working with them and developing this new brand, it feels like an actual partnership. There’s no one else besides the juggernauts: React [Presents] and shit like that. We’re working our way towards kind of handling business that way.

Why is having a hand in the local LGBT community important to you?

DB: Through PnC, I identified as bisexual. Those kids don’t have a place to go. They never leave Boystown. Through our party, we’ve had some of the best drag queen hosts. When Soft Leather lost their space at East Room, it was so important for us to bring that party here because it’s a part of the look. We’ve fought year after year to play Chicago PRIDE. It seemed like forever. It wasn’t a kosher thing to have Porn and Chicken play PRIDE. This year, they reached out to us and allowed us to play because they felt like we solidified ourselves as LGBTQ friendly. Aw man, it was a great experience. It was so awesome playing fucking bass to a bunch of gay dudes. The old queens were like “What the fuck?”

OK: We made a lot of new fans. It really felt like a festival experience.

DB: Merging the two scenes needed to happen. I don’t like division. I want those kids to be able to come over to this side of town and vice versa. There are not many places that have an all-inclusive vibe, Berlin maybe? As far as the clubs on Halsted Street, you don’t see many straight people going over there. You don’t see many gay people heading to other clubs elsewhere. You don’t have many parties that are a fusion of those two scenes. We have been that fusion for so long. Everyone is cool with coming over to our party because they know they’re going to be safe. They know they’re going to be respected.

How is consent enforced at PnC events especially in an environment of half-naked, inebriated people? 

DB: We have a zero tolerance policy for people not respecting others’ space. It’s not okay for anyone to not ask for consent, but sometimes you’re in an environment where everything’s free-flowing. If someone is disrespected, you’re gone. I will not tolerate that shit at all. We try and teach kids to respect each other.

When you’re in a space and porn is being played, everybody’s knocked down to this uncomfortable level: everybody’s vulnerable. The visual and physical cues are there. It makes it so that everybody’s kind of speaking body language in our space. We’ve always tried to make sure that no matter if you were black, white, gay, straight, queer, questionable and/or trans, you felt comfortable in our space. It’s a melting pot. Making sure that everyone feels comfortable has always been the most important thing for us. It doesn’t matter if you’re some huge artist or celebrity. Everyone’s equal. Everyone’s the same in our safe space.

OK: We have a zero-tolerance policy of working with people that have been rightfully accused. It’s a sad reality.

DB: We walk a fine line for doing what we do. We’ve been accosted several times for being men who throw a hypersexual party.

Describe the crudest and lewdest sight during a NCMF PnC set?

DB: When we had the questionable young tits out? That was so fucked up.

OK: I don’t know about that. We were able to bring 30 people from the crowd up onto the stage when we did our “Take Your Shirt Off” song.

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